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		<title>By: Inner Monologue: Meandering Thoughts of a Multi-Tasked Critic &#124; City Scoops -</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 17:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Elizabeth and the Scarlet Hunter: Sisters Are Doing It to Themselves [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Malette Poole</title>
		<link>http://www.cityscoopsny.com/?p=1339&#038;cpage=1#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Malette Poole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a North Carolinian, I was embarrassed and disappointed with Edwards.  Now, I am feeling the same about his wife. She has taken what is at root an extremely private matter and not only dragged it into the open but holding it up for all to see.  I guess this is HER 15 minutes.

John is a public figure.  He is a man who had power (or the semblance therein).  Women are attracted to this.  Some will be out front enough to ask.  Hunter is such a woman.  Certainly what she asked for was simply and purely wrong and she was wrong to pursue him.  However, in the end, it is HIS responsibility to uphold his vows. As much as it is wrong for Hunter to pursue a married man, she had made no promises to anyone.  He had.  He betrayed his wife.  Hunter was under no obligation (other than the implied but unenforceable social contract)to not go after this man.

Why did he do this?  The simple truth is, because he could.  The pursuit of power has often had, at its core, sex.  Men who were powerful and rich could have their pick of sexual partners.  In some societies, polygamy was a sign of wealth and power.  A harem was also.  All through history powerful men have had sex where wedded vows meant little except the consolidation of property (human and real) on an ownership basis.

The rules changed.  JFk dallied and everyone looked the other way.  FDR, DDE, etc. all had things going on outside of their marriages and it was overlooked.  Women were chattel, after all.  When women became equal, in law and society, this type of behavior became less acceptable.  Gary Hart helped change the rules by challenging the press.  Clinton knew the rules had changed but presumably thought the changes didn&#039;t really apply to him. Spitzer knew better than most what was at stake and did it anyway.

So, men are stupid when the little head is in charge: Conceded.  However, Elizabeth Edwards is wallowing in the same mire which has sucked so many down in the past.  She is blaming the outsider who tempted her spouse. Why?  Because she wants to think &quot;if this woman had not come along and done this, all would be well!&quot;  It needs to be the fault of an outsider to keep her from destroying them all.  She doesn&#039;t want to face the facts.  If she does, then she has to question every move he has made over the last thirty years.  As angry as she is right now, she doesn&#039;t want to face the thought of what might have been going on under her nose for years.

Most marriages do not survive the loss of a child.  Maybe theirs didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a North Carolinian, I was embarrassed and disappointed with Edwards.  Now, I am feeling the same about his wife. She has taken what is at root an extremely private matter and not only dragged it into the open but holding it up for all to see.  I guess this is HER 15 minutes.</p>
<p>John is a public figure.  He is a man who had power (or the semblance therein).  Women are attracted to this.  Some will be out front enough to ask.  Hunter is such a woman.  Certainly what she asked for was simply and purely wrong and she was wrong to pursue him.  However, in the end, it is HIS responsibility to uphold his vows. As much as it is wrong for Hunter to pursue a married man, she had made no promises to anyone.  He had.  He betrayed his wife.  Hunter was under no obligation (other than the implied but unenforceable social contract)to not go after this man.</p>
<p>Why did he do this?  The simple truth is, because he could.  The pursuit of power has often had, at its core, sex.  Men who were powerful and rich could have their pick of sexual partners.  In some societies, polygamy was a sign of wealth and power.  A harem was also.  All through history powerful men have had sex where wedded vows meant little except the consolidation of property (human and real) on an ownership basis.</p>
<p>The rules changed.  JFk dallied and everyone looked the other way.  FDR, DDE, etc. all had things going on outside of their marriages and it was overlooked.  Women were chattel, after all.  When women became equal, in law and society, this type of behavior became less acceptable.  Gary Hart helped change the rules by challenging the press.  Clinton knew the rules had changed but presumably thought the changes didn&#8217;t really apply to him. Spitzer knew better than most what was at stake and did it anyway.</p>
<p>So, men are stupid when the little head is in charge: Conceded.  However, Elizabeth Edwards is wallowing in the same mire which has sucked so many down in the past.  She is blaming the outsider who tempted her spouse. Why?  Because she wants to think &#8220;if this woman had not come along and done this, all would be well!&#8221;  It needs to be the fault of an outsider to keep her from destroying them all.  She doesn&#8217;t want to face the facts.  If she does, then she has to question every move he has made over the last thirty years.  As angry as she is right now, she doesn&#8217;t want to face the thought of what might have been going on under her nose for years.</p>
<p>Most marriages do not survive the loss of a child.  Maybe theirs didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.cityscoopsny.com/?p=1339&#038;cpage=1#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make some interesting points but Gwen, you can&#039;t judge.  I don&#039;t have cancer and I&#039;m not leaving my children much earlier than expected.  She has to do what she has to do and for where she is at the moment.  Bottom line, she has to make sense of things.  Sisterhood is of her time - not yours.  Remember her age.  I&#039;m not sure why she wrote the book except to remind people she&#039;s a person, too - not a martyr, but a person.  John was wrong, wrong wrong and I have no respect for Hunter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some interesting points but Gwen, you can&#8217;t judge.  I don&#8217;t have cancer and I&#8217;m not leaving my children much earlier than expected.  She has to do what she has to do and for where she is at the moment.  Bottom line, she has to make sense of things.  Sisterhood is of her time &#8211; not yours.  Remember her age.  I&#8217;m not sure why she wrote the book except to remind people she&#8217;s a person, too &#8211; not a martyr, but a person.  John was wrong, wrong wrong and I have no respect for Hunter.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 12:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s all remember that EE has a book to sell.  So, yeah, she&#039;s selfish, but she&#039;s also being more ... provocative in order to get some extra book sales.

I have to say that I think the concept of faithfulness and fidelity has gotten strange to me.  Fidelity, from the Latin fidelis, used to mean a steadfast allegiance.  It used to mean a loyal allegiance.  Not &quot;don&#039;t have sex or kiss other people.&quot;

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I think JE is pond scum for a number of reasons, but not for the reason that he dipped his wick.  A truly faithful husband would have not met her at the Beverly Hilton where paparazzi hang out, for instance.  He brought shame on the marriage by not protecting his affair from prying eyes.  But he&#039;s a trial lawyer and can&#039;t help but do everything in public. 

Tina, I agree with the sentiment, but I think sex was probably the lastthing on Elizabeth&#039;s mind.  She deserves a fast recovery and a book deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s all remember that EE has a book to sell.  So, yeah, she&#8217;s selfish, but she&#8217;s also being more &#8230; provocative in order to get some extra book sales.</p>
<p>I have to say that I think the concept of faithfulness and fidelity has gotten strange to me.  Fidelity, from the Latin fidelis, used to mean a steadfast allegiance.  It used to mean a loyal allegiance.  Not &#8220;don&#8217;t have sex or kiss other people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I think JE is pond scum for a number of reasons, but not for the reason that he dipped his wick.  A truly faithful husband would have not met her at the Beverly Hilton where paparazzi hang out, for instance.  He brought shame on the marriage by not protecting his affair from prying eyes.  But he&#8217;s a trial lawyer and can&#8217;t help but do everything in public. </p>
<p>Tina, I agree with the sentiment, but I think sex was probably the lastthing on Elizabeth&#8217;s mind.  She deserves a fast recovery and a book deal.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.cityscoopsny.com/?p=1339&#038;cpage=1#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 11:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so agree with this blog!  What a twisted thinker EE is or perhaps she is not thinking.  Like when she went to extreme medical means to have children after losing a son.   Why did she need to do that?  I mean, she still had children.  She needed more in an overpopulated world?  It&#039;s a sad thing to lose a son but she would never be able to replace him anyway.  And guess what - all that hormone therapy caused her cancer.  Sorry Elizabeth you may be a smart woman but all this just seems selfish to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so agree with this blog!  What a twisted thinker EE is or perhaps she is not thinking.  Like when she went to extreme medical means to have children after losing a son.   Why did she need to do that?  I mean, she still had children.  She needed more in an overpopulated world?  It&#8217;s a sad thing to lose a son but she would never be able to replace him anyway.  And guess what &#8211; all that hormone therapy caused her cancer.  Sorry Elizabeth you may be a smart woman but all this just seems selfish to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Sara O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I understand your point, if Hunter approached him, isn&#039;t it her problem first?  Both of them betrayed Elizabeth Edwards.  She knew he was married -- it is her problem that she let him screw around with her.  Yes he is a jerk here, but she is just as much of a problem as he is, and E. Edwards should have been able to say no.  I am not absolving him (nor is E. Edwards) but she has every right to say anything she wants about Hunter.  After all, she IS the wounded party here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I understand your point, if Hunter approached him, isn&#8217;t it her problem first?  Both of them betrayed Elizabeth Edwards.  She knew he was married &#8212; it is her problem that she let him screw around with her.  Yes he is a jerk here, but she is just as much of a problem as he is, and E. Edwards should have been able to say no.  I am not absolving him (nor is E. Edwards) but she has every right to say anything she wants about Hunter.  After all, she IS the wounded party here.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 22:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought Elizabeth Edwards should have been the one to have had the torrid love affair.  She so deserved the fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought Elizabeth Edwards should have been the one to have had the torrid love affair.  She so deserved the fun.</p>
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